Steve Francis

add him

cut Oldham

[Lumley316kings]

Ill put dibs in for Francis and waive Wally if i land him

Waivers are for trading purposes. This isnt a waiver, its a cut.

[Lumley316kings]

Doesnt Francis go the to the team with the worst record 1st

[Lumley316kings]

I thought that was the rule for buyouts.

lumley316kings said:

Doesnt Francis go the to the team with the worst record 1st

No.

Cut players are first come first serve.

Cut players from trades, go through the waiver process.

The waiver process put in place to stop people from cutting players to make trades. For example, Ill cut this guy you claim him, you cut that guy Ill claim him.

This is from the rules....

Cut: A player can be cut using the Cut Players Screen. When you cut a player, he will be released into the free agent pool. Any salary that was still owed to the player will continue to be charged to your team salary cap.

Buy Out: A player can be bought out. Similar to cutting a player, except the total value of the contract is paid in the current year. You are still subject to any salary cap penalties that may ensue.

Trade: Trading a player will remove him from your team along with any salary owed to him. Trades can be proposed from the Trade Proposal Screen. Players cannot be cut and resigned to process trades. Any player cut for a trade must go through waivers.

Waivers: Applies to players cut from trades. Any player cut in the trade process goes to waivers. The claiming team with the worst record from the previous season will get the player in question.

If I in the past Ive done a buy out with waivers, then Ill stick with the precedent. So if anyone can find a link with a buy out being put through waivers, post it here.

[Lumley316kings]

K my bad shit I could have done this alot earlier
i was online the most how did you no that manas would cut him, and also I thought you said you couldnt put your stars on IR.

[Benderheart]

add francis cut high

[djmyte]

The only thing I dont like about this is...the guy was cut at 12:49 and picked up at 12:50....looks like someone was doing someone else a favour...which is pretty weak.

[djmyte]

And to backup my point, why cut Francis when there is still a good chunk of the season left? He could have cut him after the playoffs started and no one would have been able to pick him up...and he still would have had his salary off the books.

[djmyte]

Plus, isnt NY tanking? Which is something that isnt allowed? Cutting one of his top talents at this point in the season...

Way to go guys...

[Basone's Blazers]

This is pretty ridiculous, why cut a star player? When he could be easily traded for with some value in return... Doesn't make sense.

[Lumley316kings]

Yea I kept my top guys

[Lakers GM]

Missed the first post I'm editing this.


I still think on the whole this is ridiculous. Top talents like this being cut two nights before the deadline? At least let the deadline pass..the buyout could have been done after the finals, so that one team's decision to illegally tank doesn't bolster a contender's team.

[djmyte]

Another reason this is so obvious is that Orlando was looking for a PG via trade...now they dont have to give anything up to get a good one.

Its like a puzzle man...the pieces just fit.

[GMHornets]

I'm not big on this either.

[C.C.]

not big on this either.

[C.C.]

lumley316kings said:

Ill put dibs in for Francis and waive Wally if i land him

for what purpose? haha.

[Mr Mojo Risin]

As far as this goes it should be allowed if were talking about rules....


If were talking about the integrity this league has built up over times this is a slap in the face to gm's who work hard to make there teams competitors.....but we live in society where integrity can be sacrificed to succeed so I dont see a problem.

[Benderheart]

this is dissappointing

I think its pretty lame that anyone would accuse me of cheating, which is essentially what lots of you are doing.

Manas cut him, and I was on the boards when he was cut. I claimed him because yes, I do want a better PG.

If in fact Ive used waivers before on bought out players, we can do waivers again for this.

Instead its just a bitch fest about me cheating. Thanks guys.

[Lakers GM]

Spence, don't know if that's directed at me, but I think I speak for a lot of people in saying that the problem isn't whether or not you knew NY was cutting Francis. The problem is that a team is tanking and cut one of its best remaining players for whoever roaming the boards to pick up. In that case, it should a) be a cut made after the finals so that it doesn't have a say in the winner and b) go through waivers.

[Basone's Blazers]

aaronjh said:

Spence, don't know if that's directed at me, but I think I speak for a lot of people in saying that the problem isn't whether or not you knew NY was cutting Francis. The problem is that a team is tanking and cut one of its best remaining players for whoever roaming the boards to pick up. In that case, it should a) be a cut made after the finals so that it doesn't have a say in the winner and b) go through waivers.

I agree completely. We are not saying your cheating at all, it just so happened that is was right timing. I agree with Aaron, the cut should be made after the finals. Whether he goes through waivers or not, I have no problem with.

aaronjh said:

Spence, don't know if that's directed at me, but I think I speak for a lot of people in saying that the problem isn't whether or not you knew NY was cutting Francis. The problem is that a team is tanking and cut one of its best remaining players for whoever roaming the boards to pick up. In that case, it should a) be a cut made after the finals so that it doesn't have a say in the winner and b) go through waivers.

It was more directed at DJ, since hes the one that implied that the timing was an issue.

There are virtually no written tanking rules in BBS. If in fact we need to right some maybe we should.

Also, if someone wants to start using waivers for buyouts thats fine with me as well.

The main problem for me here is instead of trying to fix this problem, people just seem to be whining about it. How about some solutions instead?

Cutting after the playoffs is at Manas' descretion. Why should the league decide when Francis gets cut?

[Mr Mojo Risin]

basone12 said:

aaronjh said:

Spence, don't know if that's directed at me, but I think I speak for a lot of people in saying that the problem isn't whether or not you knew NY was cutting Francis. The problem is that a team is tanking and cut one of its best remaining players for whoever roaming the boards to pick up. In that case, it should a) be a cut made after the finals so that it doesn't have a say in the winner and b) go through waivers.

I agree completely. We are not saying your cheating at all, it just so happened that is was right timing. I agree with Aaron, the cut should be made after the finals. Whether he goes through waivers or not, I have no problem with.

I love you kid but please can you make a post for once with your own opinion its always you agreeing with someone else, its just a little annoying sometimes.

[Mr Mojo Risin]

admin said:

Cutting after the playoffs is at Manas' descretion. Why should the league decide when Francis gets cut?

As much as someone might not like it, hes right.