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Post by on Sept 1, 2005 18:53:51 GMT -5
-The time period after TC and before the Seaon is now called the Reward Point Period -100 points equals one +5 point increase. -Totals for each year can only be used the following year. You cannot carry over points. If you dont use them, they are wasted. -Reward Points will be used after TC is run. There will be a alloted time after TC and before Opening Night for you to use your points. -You may only increase a player once each year, and in one category over their career. -You may never raise a rating over 85. -Only players 25 and under eligible. So this is exactly how the Reward Points will work. Instead of a grade increase you will get 5 points to "spend" in a category for every 100 Reward Points. This will in turn potentially raise a letter grade. Ive decided on this because it gives a GM a more comprehensive control over which part of the players game he is improving. Note, I will not increase anyone over 85. So if you choose to raise Duncans inside scoring by 5, and he is already over 85 the request will be denied. If someone has an 83, and you choose to raise a player by 5, he will only be raised by 2, and you will get a "refund" of 3. Inside Scoring Ratings Affected: Inside Scoring Mid Range Shooting Ratings Affected: Outside Scoring Long Range Shooting Ratings Affected: Outside Scoring Handling Ratings Affected: Handling (note: this is the ability to lower turnovers) Speed Ratings Affected: Handling, Defense and Rebounding Passing Ratings Affected: Handling Stealing Ratings Affected: Defense Blocking Ratings Affected: Defense Post Defense Ratings Affected: Defense Perimeter Defense Ratings Affected: Defense Drive Defense Ratings Affected: Defense Offensive Rebounding Ratings Affected: Rebounding Defensive Rebounding Ratings Affected: Rebounding Strength Ratings Affected: Inside Scoring, Defense and Rebounding Jumping Ratings Affected: Inside Scoring (strangely, it doesn't affect Rebounding) *I reserve the right to change this, or have the final say on anyone that wants to try and screw with this or any concept that I propose for the BBS
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Post by djmyte on Sept 22, 2005 12:26:37 GMT -5
I think there should be a limit to the number of upgrades attainable at the end of each year. It's conceivable someone could post 1000 useless posts and thus get 10 upgrades. It kinda takes away from having to actually build a winning team...dontcha think?
Personally Ive never liked reward points but since they are now in effect...how about a max of 3 upgrades per season?
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Post by C.C. on Sept 22, 2005 13:25:53 GMT -5
how about a max of 3 upgrades per season? How about a max of 5? (Starting Lineup)
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Post by Thunder on Sept 22, 2005 14:43:23 GMT -5
Perhaps a compromise? 5 for those teams that in the Reward Point Period post a .500 or less record. 3 for those above .500? I really like this as a tool for weaker teams, but dislike it for strengthening teams that are already strong. Maybe even less for teams that progress beyond the first round of the playoffs? Just some thoughts.
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Post by djmyte on Sept 22, 2005 17:08:54 GMT -5
Perhaps a compromise? 5 for those teams that in the Reward Point Period post a .500 or less record. 3 for those above .500? I really like this as a tool for weaker teams, but dislike it for strengthening teams that are already strong. Maybe even less for teams that progress beyond the first round of the playoffs? Just some thoughts. Something like this could work. Maybe we could also institute a rule that once you upgrade a player in a certain category you cant upgrade that player's particular category again. That way young players with high potential dont evolve into having ridiculous ratings. There should only be a handful of Kobe's and Bron's etc.
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Post by Lumley316kings on Sept 22, 2005 17:14:33 GMT -5
Yea not a bad idea
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Post by on Sept 22, 2005 18:44:58 GMT -5
Heres my take. 5 upgrades MAX. Only 1 upgrade per player per year, and can only up grade a player in a certain category once for a career. Thoughts?
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Post by djmyte on Sept 23, 2005 1:32:22 GMT -5
Decent.
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Post by basketface69 on Sept 26, 2005 3:20:44 GMT -5
1 upgrade per player per year, an nothing over b+. how about using points in trades, like they do with money in the nba?
i also think that points should be carried over, and what about using points to decrease injury time etc?
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Post by on Sept 26, 2005 10:10:07 GMT -5
1 upgrade per player per year, an nothing over b+. how about using points in trades, like they do with money in the nba? i also think that points should be carried over, and what about using points to decrease injury time etc? I dont want to get into trading points, it becomes more complicated then it is worth imo. We could carry points over, but I dont like the idea of buying injuries to go away. I feel it is too unrealistic.
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Post by djmyte on Sept 26, 2005 13:04:20 GMT -5
I like the no carry over rule.
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Post by loaf on Sept 26, 2005 14:31:13 GMT -5
I think that this is a great Reward system. It's not too unrealistic yet still rewards activity.
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Post by Thunder on Sept 29, 2005 1:03:01 GMT -5
Heres my take. 5 upgrades MAX. Only 1 upgrade per player per year, and can only up grade a player in a certain category once for a career. Thoughts? Along with what you've posted at top... I like it. Do it.
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Post by GMHornets on Dec 28, 2005 14:47:49 GMT -5
So the rule is under-25, meaning 25 year-olds Dwight Howard and Theo Davis cannot have their ratings change through reward points?
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Post by C.C. on Dec 28, 2005 14:54:04 GMT -5
So the rule is under-25, meaning 25 year-olds Dwight Howard and Theo Davis cannot have their ratings change through reward points? 25 will work.
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Post by on Dec 28, 2005 16:36:19 GMT -5
After looking at how I phrased it, it seems 25 wont work. But I cant remember if I didnt allow Gordon cause he had just turned 25, or if he had just turned 26.
Anyone remember?
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Post by Lakers GM on Dec 28, 2005 16:38:18 GMT -5
After looking at how I phrased it, it seems 25 wont work. But I cant remember if I didnt allow Gordon cause he had just turned 25, or if he had just turned 26. Anyone remember? It was 26, you'll see it in the 2010 camp thread
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Post by on Dec 28, 2005 16:39:57 GMT -5
After looking at how I phrased it, it seems 25 wont work. But I cant remember if I didnt allow Gordon cause he had just turned 25, or if he had just turned 26. Anyone remember? It was 26, you'll see it in the 2010 camp thread Cool, then 25 and under. Ill edit the rules post.
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Post by djmyte on Dec 28, 2005 18:39:14 GMT -5
Its always been those under 25 who have been eligible(anyone 25 and over has been ineligible).
Suggestion: stick with it. Reward points have been around long enough for everyone to know how they work. Changing it now isn't exactly the most fair thing to do.
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Post by Lakers GM on Dec 28, 2005 18:48:57 GMT -5
This is Danny's post last season: when i posted the points Ben Gordon was 25...
he mustve aged...
But if i cant up him, ill do.... Deng in either mid or long range, whichever hes worse at
DONE!
The issue there was whether he was 25 or 26, so I think the rule is that 25 AND under are eligible
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Post by on Dec 28, 2005 18:52:27 GMT -5
Its always been those under 25 who have been eligible(anyone 25 and over has been ineligible). Suggestion: stick with it. Reward points have been around long enough for everyone to know how they work. Changing it now isn't exactly the most fair thing to do. Why was there even a question about Gordon if it was 24 and under? I really just dont remember what the rule was before.
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Post by GMHornets on Dec 28, 2005 18:53:33 GMT -5
Its always been those under 25 who have been eligible(anyone 25 and over has been ineligible). Suggestion: stick with it. Reward points have been around long enough for everyone to know how they work. Changing it now isn't exactly the most fair thing to do. I'm not looking to change it, I'm looking for a clarification of the rule.
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Post by djmyte on Dec 28, 2005 18:54:04 GMT -5
Ben Gordon infact wasnt upgraded, Luol Deng was instead....
"Luol Deng-long range shooting"
The rules said "under 25"....pretty easy to understand. No one 25 or over was allowed to be raised last camp, so it shouldnt start now. And yes, I remember.
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Post by krupimpski424 on Dec 28, 2005 18:55:00 GMT -5
This is Danny's post last season: when i posted the points Ben Gordon was 25... he mustve aged... But if i cant up him, ill do.... Deng in either mid or long range, whichever hes worse at DONE! The issue there was whether he was 25 or 26, so I think the rule is that 25 AND under are eligible 25 AND under is correct....i researched the rule last season in preperation for this offseason
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Post by on Dec 28, 2005 18:56:28 GMT -5
Ben Gordon infact wasnt upgraded, Luol Deng was instead.... "Luol Deng-long range shooting" The rules said "under 25"....pretty easy to understand. No one 25 or over was allowed to be raised last camp, so it shouldnt start now. Um ya. But Dannys posts says, "he was 25, he mustve aged" meaning he was 25 and therefore eligible to increase, but he aged to 26 and became ineligible. This is what I think he was saying with this post. And because he was 26, he was not increased. Like I said, I dont remember exactly what the intention was, but I have no problem with 25 or younger.
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Post by Lakers GM on Dec 28, 2005 18:57:38 GMT -5
Yeah, all I was trying to say what that the issue there seemed to be that 25 is doable and 26 isn't. I'm fine either way, was just trying to help
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Post by GMHornets on Dec 28, 2005 18:59:36 GMT -5
As am I, I was just trying to see where I could use my reward points.
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Post by on Dec 28, 2005 19:04:43 GMT -5
I appreciate the help, as I honestly cant remember what the intention is. Its just that if 25 isnt okay, Dannys post makes no sense. He wouldnt have posted complaining that Gordon aged from 25 to 26, if in fact 25 wasnt eligible.
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Post by djmyte on Dec 28, 2005 19:07:27 GMT -5
This is what it says in the "How this will work" thread...
"Only players under 25 are eligible."
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Post by djmyte on Dec 28, 2005 19:11:28 GMT -5
Up until now no one 25 or over has been edited, but there are players that could have been...my main contention is that changing the rule now is unfair to those who couldnt/didnt get to upgrade their 25 year olds last season. Plus, another year to upgrade players is just another opportunity to create ridiculous ratings(I have a few players under 25 so the rule would help me as well, im not doing this to help myself).
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