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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 13:59:39 GMT -5
Only files I can find are for 84-85, 00-01, 01-02, 02-03.
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 14:46:49 GMT -5
Some potentials are shown different, but actual potential seems to be the same.
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Post by gdftony on Jul 2, 2005 14:50:22 GMT -5
well if its a big deal to anyone they can copy the league history from the site that is already uploaded, and manually change it on a different web page so they can still have the history. But i would rather continue with what we have, alot of people would lose interest if we started over.
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Post by SpursGM on Jul 2, 2005 15:39:25 GMT -5
the history isn't a big deal to me but some things that I'm either a)confused about b) don't like.
1) You said there would be no TCs? Hence, no progression(or degression) for the start of the season? That would be a problem for teams(like me) who are hoping for younger players i.e. Brian Zoubek to further develop, if there are no TCs, the rosters will be essentially at the same level as last, no?
2)How will teams that are under the 12 player roster size be affected? Will there still be a free agency period? I'm not to sure about that..
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Post by SoonerfanTU on Jul 2, 2005 15:39:31 GMT -5
Spence, are you saying that some players' ratings may change? If that is the case, I definately say start over. I'm also not a big fan of NOT have a TC this year, though I realize there is nothing that can be done about that.
I think starting over should be a legitimate option. Alot of the current owners weren't here when the league started, and the league definately seems to be loaded to a few select teams. Starting over might give the league more balance.
Just an idea.
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 15:44:55 GMT -5
the history isn't a big deal to me but some things that I'm either a)confused about b) don't like. 1) You said there would be no TCs? Hence, no progression(or degression) for the start of the season? That would be a problem for teams(like me) who are hoping for younger players i.e. Brian Zoubek to further develop, if there are no TCs, the rosters will be essentially at the same level as last, no? 2)How will teams that are under the 12 player roster size be affected? Will there still be a free agency period? I'm not to sure about that.. There will be no TC this year. This affects everyone pretty much the same. And in all honestly some teams way more then you. Teams that are virtually all youngsters will be hurt way more then you. The draft will finish, free agency will run. That hasnt changed. |
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 15:45:46 GMT -5
Spence, are you saying that some players' ratings may change? If that is the case, I definately say start over. I'm also not a big fan of NOT have a TC this year, though I realize there is nothing that can be done about that. I think starting over should be a legitimate option. Alot of the current owners weren't here when the league started, and the league definately seems to be loaded to a few select teams. Starting over might give the league more balance. Just an idea. No ratings have changed. Real potential is the same, some players scouted potential has changed. SO a player may show a different potential grade, but in reality it hasnt changed. |
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 15:48:21 GMT -5
Id love some opinions on this from GMs that can actually view this problem as a big picture problem, instead of "How it affects me"
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Post by SoonerfanTU on Jul 2, 2005 15:58:56 GMT -5
Id love some opinions on this from GMs that can actually view this problem as a big picture problem, instead of "How it affects me" See my "comment" from above. I think starting over should be a legitimate option. Alot of the current owners weren't here when the league started, and the league definately seems to be loaded to a few select teams. Starting over might give the league more balance.I think starting over, letting owners switch teams, and getting a "game" that makes things easier on YOU would be nice. Yea, it might take some time to set up, but going foward it would be nice. As it is, you have some teams that are a long away from competing. The history may not be important to some of the other guys, but I think it adds to the league. |
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Post by SoonerfanTU on Jul 2, 2005 16:03:47 GMT -5
And another point, it is hard to trade players or sign FA's without having the PY stats. If I want to see how a guy did last year, what do I look at?
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 16:05:12 GMT -5
Jeremy I did read your comment, and I also read the part where you said that you are against not having a TC. My post above was not entirely pointed at you, but it is frustrating when I work hard to try and get something done that gets us almost to where we were before, and people want options that at this point would take mroe time then I have to give.
That being said, this is how its gonna go. Its pointless to kick this around on the forum, so Im gonna decide how its gonna be. We will use the current file I have. There will be no "real" TC this year, but I will develop a way for youngsters to get better. We will run free agency, and we will lose the history stats.
I hope we dont lose any GM's over this, but if we do, well, we do. Im doing whats best/easiest for me. Sorry to be selfish guys, but with the amount of time I put into this league, I need to make sure its still fun for me. If at any point this league gets to be tedious for me, itll probably end, and I dont want that.
Ill have a plan for TC up soon.
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 16:05:37 GMT -5
And another point, it is hard to trade players or sign FA's without having the PY stats. If I want to see how a guy did last year, what do I look at? Ratings |
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Post by d2acollectables on Jul 2, 2005 16:36:24 GMT -5
i can care less of history,keeping the current rosters and draft picks is the way to go i can care less what a guy averages a year ago its what heppens now thats important anyway, i do not want lose a team that i have built
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Post by The Pink Panther on Jul 2, 2005 20:34:33 GMT -5
keep current rosters and picks, the hell with history.
selfish standpoint: i just won a championship and i want to keep my team
league standpoint: people have put a lot of work into making their teams just to start over. creation draft then i could end up with the 30th pick building my team around Steve Nash while someone who hasnt put nearly as much effort into this as me winds up with the 1st pick and gets LeBron James or whoever they select.
commish standpoint: keep league as is and continue forward, easy as.
im with keeping rosters the same and going forward. end of the day spencer's put twice the effort into this as most of us have so let him have the final say. its his league and i stand by any decision made.
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Post by manasrai on Jul 3, 2005 3:54:48 GMT -5
lol, danny your "league standpoint" seems quite selfish.
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Post by The Pink Panther on Jul 3, 2005 8:35:17 GMT -5
replace "i could" with "someone could"
i didnt mean it to mean me specifically but im sure you get the picture.
why should i, or anyone else, pick 30th when someone else gets to pick 1st when we could just carry on with the current rosters. i was putting it in terms of me but it works the same if anyone else reads it in the first person relating to them.
example i doubt you'd like it if you had to pick 30th while someone else got to pick 1st. Theres no way of saying who deserves to pick where and a randomised lottery would lead to discomfort among GM's. The only three ways you could work a seeded draft is that a) i pick first because i won the title b) Bulls pick first because they had the best regular season record or c) milwaukee picks first because they had the worst. I dont think any of these are fair.
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