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Post by on Jul 1, 2005 22:42:11 GMT -5
Trying to fix it, but right now Im not sure what to do about it. Until I get it fixed, were on hold.
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Post by on Jul 1, 2005 23:31:42 GMT -5
If this cant be fixed, we need to evaluate the direction of the league.
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Post by on Jul 1, 2005 23:41:09 GMT -5
So, here are some options if the producer of FBB cant help me.
Start over as an FBB league. Id have to develop a league file, starting at some point in history. Wed have to decide on actual rosters or creation draft.
I may buy a different basketball game. And wed start over, all learning to play a new game.
Thoughts?
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Post by djmyte on Jul 1, 2005 23:48:27 GMT -5
Start over in the early to mid 80's. So instead of ending with guys like Jordan, Bird etc we start with them and eventually work our way towards the present day. That would be a good 20+ seasons worth of bball.
Damn shame about not getting to see Bosh develop into a dominant big man if we do have to start over though.
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Post by djmyte on Jul 1, 2005 23:52:07 GMT -5
Actually, I guess that wouldnt work. We'd be missing a few teams. Earliest would be 1995.
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Post by Lumley316kings on Jul 1, 2005 23:58:16 GMT -5
Well whatever you want to do, ill try and get around to see if that idea of mine would work
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Post by airgordon on Jul 2, 2005 0:06:11 GMT -5
If u want to "try a new game", I recommend TPB. The producer of FBB is IMPOSSIBLE to get in touch with, but I hope you figure it out.
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 0:27:59 GMT -5
We could do a creation draft circa 1985. Id have to start on a file that would have those players, which would take forver.
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 1:07:14 GMT -5
I found a file that is 84-85.
If this is what were doing, I envision it goin like this....
Each GM has the choice to keep their current franchise, or give it up. For example Id give up Detroit to AAron, who would in turn give up Seattle to Chris. That would open Orlando. If no one wnats Orlando, ID take them. Basically GMs can switch team cities amongst other GM's.
There is a draft order already set. Wed do a creation draft. Wed draft the top 5 or 7 rounds, and then let the comp select the remaining rounds.
The salary cap would be set lower, to prevent teams from stockpiling talent.
Thoughts?
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Post by Lumley316kings on Jul 2, 2005 1:17:52 GMT -5
Sounds good if we cant continue the other way
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Post by Wolves GM on Jul 2, 2005 1:22:15 GMT -5
don't have a backup?
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 1:32:38 GMT -5
Updated the backup today. When I went to open up the file, and continue the draft, there was a run time error. Right now both files are current, and have run time errors.
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Post by gp21grimes on Jul 2, 2005 4:12:12 GMT -5
Another league I was in recently ended because of the errors were not able to be repaired for the same reason 'run time error'. If the creator of FBB can fix it, we still have a chance, but other than that theres not much more spencer can do but think of other options for the league to restart or continue somehow.
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Post by The Pink Panther on Jul 2, 2005 8:32:22 GMT -5
Im not sure about starting in 84/85 because i dont really know any of the players apart from the major ones.
why not just start in 96 but add in all the players from previous drafts that are still in the league?
at the end of the day real life still progresses and we would still have to catch up 10 years.
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Post by d2acollectables on Jul 2, 2005 8:40:07 GMT -5
why cant we keep the same rosters we have now?my roster with magic and all is starting to look good not having him and the others would suck be not very interesting
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Post by Benwallacedetroit3 on Jul 2, 2005 11:07:21 GMT -5
Im not sure about starting in 84/85 because i dont really know any of the players apart from the major ones. why not just start in 96 but add in all the players from previous drafts that are still in the league? at the end of the day real life still progresses and we would still have to catch up 10 years. Ya, I'm with that too...I'm not too familiar with players from the 80's except the major guys....but either way I'm down for whatever.....
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 11:13:36 GMT -5
I have backup'd the rosters we currently have. Unfortunately there is no history, no stats, and all the draft picks are owned by thier original team. Im guessin the best thing to do is to try and trade the draft picks, and re start the league after this draft.
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Post by Benwallacedetroit3 on Jul 2, 2005 11:16:49 GMT -5
Is that going to be a huge amount of work to do....what's the easiest way to get the league up and running again, make all those trades or start it over?
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Post by SpursGM on Jul 2, 2005 11:19:32 GMT -5
I don't mind starting the league over with more or less the same rosters... but it might be odd for those of us that only have 6 players on our team.
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Post by rommie on Jul 2, 2005 11:27:21 GMT -5
JMO but I think it might be easier just to start over completely.
But no matter what you do is cool with me.
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 11:49:28 GMT -5
This is where I am. Basically the rosters and draft picks are the same. All the draft players are listed as free agents, and the league is sitting right after the draft on the game. Im going to manually add draft picks for the 08 draft, editing them from free agents. After that we will proceed with free agency and start the season. I dont think there will be a TC this year unfortunately, and we have no league history. Thats about the best I can do.
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Post by SpursGM on Jul 2, 2005 12:00:57 GMT -5
This is where I am. Basically the rosters and draft picks are the same. All the draft players are listed as free agents, and the league is sitting right after the draft on the game. Im going to manually add draft picks for the 08 draft, editing them from free agents. After that we will proceed with free agency and start the season. I dont think there will be a TC this year unfortunately, and we have no league history. Thats about the best I can do. If that's the case I think it's best to start over completely.
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 12:06:10 GMT -5
We have our rosters, we have our picks. I think the majority of the league prefers our current rosters. I know I do. Im pretty much set on running this file, and just saying screw the history.
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Post by Benwallacedetroit3 on Jul 2, 2005 13:02:49 GMT -5
What does the history have to do with anything?
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Post by Thunder on Jul 2, 2005 13:09:45 GMT -5
I'm open to either option. But, I am intrigued by the idea of starting over with the great set of gms we currently have and having a clean slate to recreate.
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 13:15:57 GMT -5
History means no stats from previous years. No past records, or league records.
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Post by SpursGM on Jul 2, 2005 13:25:42 GMT -5
I think we should take a league vote on this.
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 13:30:35 GMT -5
Im strongly in favor of current rosters on a new league file with no history. Ive already put about 2 hours in setting this up, and any other way would take more time that Id rather not spend. Chris, if you wanna set up a vote, feel free.
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Post by Benwallacedetroit3 on Jul 2, 2005 13:36:18 GMT -5
How much more time will it take to develop a new league...say from 1996 or whatever year we start at? If it takes way to long then stick with what you got but Brian made a great point with all the good GM's we have in the league of starting over...also is there anyway each GM can help with starting over if we did?
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Post by on Jul 2, 2005 13:42:05 GMT -5
Heres my main problem with starting over. I hate drafts. And the only thing I hate more then drafts, is starting over with real rosters, that are uneven. Drafts take too long, and a creation draft will take forever. I mean we can barely finish half a round in a week, how long will 5 or 6 or 7 rounds take? Then we get to time limits, and me selecting guys who dont show. Then I get to hear GMs complain about who they are given. Its just a huge pain in the ass.
Also, we have people who want mid 80's, we have people that want mid 90's. We dont have a definitive start point. And everyone has their own agenda, which is understandable, but still leads us to multiple different ways that this situation should be handled.
Right now the problem is mostly solved. The league will be the exact same as it was 24 hours ago, except without historical stats. Its the easiest, and best way to continue IMO.
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